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Cognitive Dissonance April 13, 2011

Posted by FCM in feminisms, gender roles, health, PIV, pop culture, trans.
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this is a remake of a “nuvaring” commercial i found on youtube…but i dont really get what this vidder is trying to say!?  is it “just” an extremely clear illustration of how repetitious the hormonal birth-control-pill regimen is for women?  (i cant read the non-english script at the end…is there a political message in there somewhere?)  well, even if that was its only point…point taken!  its really really really (really really really) repetitious!  every day, every day, women have to deal with the stone-cold FACT that only they can get pregnant, and only men can get them pregnant.  DUH!  so along comes nuvaring…oh, in case anyone hasnt seen the original commercial, or seen it in HD, or seen a newer commercial featuring women watching the older commercial…heres that too:

yay!  unlike the pill, you only have to use nuvaring once-a-month.  it still has the same risks known, documented side-effects as the pill, and you have to “put it in” yukky stinky-poo face…but you know, when you are being constantly vaginally-probed by some dood and calling it “sex,” and you are taking the pill anyway, whats probing inserting a poisonous piece of fucking plastic that can kill you yourself 12 times a year…if it means not having to be repetitious?  we all have other shit to do ya know, we are busy and modern and stuff!  yay, MOAR!

this is a very clear frog-in-boiling water scenario isnt it?  subject women to dangerous PIV-centric sexuality, then allow them to mitigate (but not alleviate) the effects of that with something dangerous, time-consuming and expensive (like hormonal birth-control pills)…then offer them something thats exactly the same LESS one of the negatives.  sounds like a good deal, doesnt it?  its suddenly getting less repetitive here in this boiling water, what a relief.  yes, it makes perfect sense…as long as you dont think about it.  oh yeah, and PIV is good for your health, and relieves stress.  mkay!

moving on…the fun-fems have managed to outdo themselves once again, with this “abortion is not a womens issue!” bullshit thats already been gloriously taken apart and scrutinized here and here.  you see, according to the fun-fems, men have babies too.  men get pregnant too.  trans are being unfairly excluded from “reproductive justice” even (presumably) the ones who are no longer reproductively viable, having been castrated and/or eviscerated already in their effort to be trans.  which is, of course, impossible.  you cannot change your sex mkay?  you can be the sex you were born with, either reproductively-viable or not-reproductively-viable.  thats it.  be whatever gender you want, i dont care.  it doesnt change anything…except your gender.

from feministing:

Gender is this thing that we construct out of a million different characteristics. The way we hold our hands. The length of our hair. The shape of our face. What we wear. Our voices. But then, for some reason, when we got to the question of what is it really, we go to what lives between your legs. Even though that’s not how we make gender and that’s not how gender works. It’s in that assumption that gender lives in our crotches, that we end up erasing the reality that men can have abortions, men can get pregnant and give birth.

oh really?  now transmen are the same as cis-men?  ie.  they are both “just men”?  no qualifier needed when speaking about female-sexed persons whose chosen gender is male?  fine.  then stop calling them trans.  if its a meaningless distinction, then stop making it.

or, better yet, why dont they all just admit that they do NOT believe that sex and gender are different (because they clearly dont…transmen are male-gendered AND MALE SEXED DAMMIT, according to them) or for that matter, since this is what they seem to be getting at anyway, why not just state with conviction their obvious belief that biological-sex does not exist.  admit that they are only talking about gender, and they only recognize gender.  and not sex.  this is clearly the case, when they claim that a MAN can get pregnant, or when they refer to a female-sexed-but-male-gendered-person as a MAN.

so!  here we all are, in this awesome post-feminist and post-biological-sex world.  yay!  theres just one problem, one nagging little thing…this one tiny reminder every day, every day, that what the fun-fems are spewing is complete and utter garbage, and that the inconsistencies in their “gender” discourse swallow, digest and shit out their discourse, eviscerate their discourse, render meaningless their discourse…and that “tiny little thing”, i believe, is this:

the birth-control pill.  PIV-positive fun-fems: if biological sex does not exist, or is irrelevant, or what the fuck ever, what is that little pill you are popping every day actually for?  this is a serious question.  that is all.

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1. Undercover Punk - April 13, 2011

Oh HELL yes. I read that on feministing bullshit yesterday. Funfems, HELLO. Stop popping those fucking carcinogenic pills if bio sex means nothing. And that is EXACTLY where trans ideology is going. Remember those reversals I posted from twitter? SAME Shit, different day. It makes me SICK. Bio sex is the ENTIRE BASIS of patriarchy. Duh. Denying this is the misogynist thing I can possibly think of.

Also, to the article and Jos the Moronic TransWoman, gender is NOT a toy. It is a construct. And it puts me in physical DANGER every day of my life.

2. Undercover Punk - April 13, 2011

MOST misogynist.

3. thebewilderness - April 13, 2011

This is really going to embarrass them in the years to come. No one can embrace that much stupid without it leaving a mark.
For those of us that thought womens issues were human rights issues we have now been schooled. Womens issues are actually mens issues because all your base are belong to us!! eleventyone!

FCM - April 13, 2011

Bahahahaha! omg tbw, wtf? seriously, i dont get it? i do have a cracking headache now though, so thanks!

4. thebewilderness - April 13, 2011

Criminy! I didn’t know I could do that! I don’t exactly know how I did it either.

FCM - April 13, 2011

what does it mean?

5. FAB Libber - April 13, 2011

Yes, I noted that F2Ts were being referred to as ‘men’ as much as ‘transmen’, which is what they do sometimes for M2Ts as ‘women’ and ‘transwomen’.

The only ones who get consistently labelled are FABs, who are referred to as ‘cis-women’ and ‘bio-women’ and (my personal pet hate) ‘natal-women’. Anything but the default of the category that they are; ‘women’.

This is bait and switch, whereby they have replaced the default occupants (FABs) with the interlopers (M2Ts). Cuckoo syndrome.

The parallel discourse from Camp Tranz is that gender is important, more important than biological sex (which apparently the biological sex just gets ‘fixed’ when it is wrong – ask them why the don’t fix the gender). Also, that it is about gender, not sex (huh?), then add the final layer of stupidity (after erasing biological sex as being unimportant) then turning around and immitating biological sex characteristics.

YOU FUCKING NUTTERS.

Currently their unsane house of cards has fallen, resulting in emergency regrouping (the only true tranz being the SRS-seeking tranz) as a way of trying to shore up this Circus of Unsanity.

We await with baited breath to the next parody satire comedy of errors twanz ideology to make its appearance.

And the UK Govt, the twanz partner in crime, must be looking mighty stoopid about now, considering it rushed out with open arms to meet and greet this tranz situation, basing websites, laws and GID upon the old tranz ideology of ‘woman in a manz body’ crap, which has since been denounced by the transjactivists as just a line they spun to the medical community to get SRS.

FCM - April 13, 2011

ok i am assuming that tbw’s video is an example of a ridiculous outdated meme? kinda like trans will be in 10 years? yes/no? thats what i was able to glean from wiki. apparently, this video/meme went viral in 2001 or something. seriously, my head hurts! 😦

FCM - April 13, 2011

basing websites, laws and GID upon the old tranz ideology of ‘woman in a manz body’ crap, which has since been denounced by the transjactivists as just a line they spun to the medical community to get SRS.

what do you do with a group of known liars, once “science” has proven (with a high degree of uncertainty, but whose counting?) that the lies are true! with science! its all so embarassing. so, what they are saying NOW, now that they DONT lie about feeling “in the wrong body” anymore? that the SRS is just for funsies, or what?

6. cherryblossomlife - April 14, 2011

why does no-one mention the chromozomes.

From the moment of *conception* you are designated an X or a Y chromozome to go with your other X one.
Females= XX Males=XY

Now what that trans empire is claiming (in the trans “literature”) is that there is in fact a *continuum* of sex. Apparently, you aren’t firmly in one box or the other like all other primates. Apparently, mating is an irrelevant footnote. According to them we all exist on a continnum ranging from XX through to XY and trans happen to fall somewhere in the middle.

Now actually there is an element of truth in what they say when it comes to intersex (not trans), but not in the way they mean.

All human beings begin with a female form (which is why men have nipples) In the case of intersex, the Y chromozome is introduced but doesn’t develop in the usual way.
What this means is- and this is important- *all* *intersex* *are* *male*

But many of them are assigned female identity at birth. The reason for this is that the patriarchy believes Male=Penis. So if a human being without a penis exists, it must be a woman, right?
WRONG!
They’re males who happen not to have a penis.

What is interesting about this is that women, females are *always* fully XX. It is males and intersex which are variations of XY, but it doesn’t change the fact they’re *all* males.

A transactivist once asked me “What are you going to do when they eventually find a transexxual gene, hmm?”

I’ve no doubt they will “find” one considering the vast amount of financial resources going into trans “research”

I told her “THe existence of a transsexual gene does not *negate* the existence of females (which is what trans-women are hoping to prove). It just means there’s yet another variation on XY males”

Automatically assigning female identity to intersex makes me so angry because it buys into the patriarchal myth that women are nothing but penis-less non-people, defined in relation to the original prototype=men.
Real science proves the opposite to be true.

7. thebewilderness - April 14, 2011

I’m sorry I gave you head hurt.
I meant only to post a link to allyourbasearebelongtous because that is what the argument being made reminded me of.

Specious arguments are like that. We hear them, and some of us accept them without any brain strain. There are actually people to this day who repeat the myth of Adams rib. That men have one less rib than women because it says God took one from Adam to make Eve. Srsly. Embrace the stupid without a moments thought.
This is the same sort of thing. If women who have transitioned to men can get pregnant then pregnancy and abortion are a mens issue???
Or, you could give it three seconds of thought and come to the realization that changing gender does not change sex so women are still subject to the biological dictates of being born female.

Claiming that the words mean different things depending on how you mean them creates the conditions where no one can understand what the heck you are talking about. Which is, I suppose, the whole point.

8. cherryblossomlife - April 14, 2011

that “why does no-one mention the chromozomes” wasn’t to anyone here! I just meant that there is overwhelming evidence that the entire trans premise is bullshit, so it’s mind-boggling that their lobby has so much power.

FCM - April 14, 2011

thanks for clarifying TBW! also, i learned this the other day while trying to embed the “detachable penis” video (funny i had the opposite problem, i wanted to embed it and couldnt figure out how) wordpress “help” explains that for YOUTUBE ONLY, you can just copy and paste the http:// from the address bar into your WP comment, and it automatically embeds. i think this is new, and that they didnt do this before, which is why we were both confused.

9. thebewilderness - April 14, 2011

I know I have quoted this before, but the question really is “which is to be master”.

“‘I don’t know what you mean by “glory”,’ Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. ‘Of course you don’t — till I tell you. I meant “there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!”‘

‘But “glory” doesn’t mean “a nice knock-down argument”,’ Alice objected.

‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.’ “

10. Undercover Punk - April 14, 2011

You know, maybe we should ALL post against this particular article– all rad fem blogs that we can get on board, that is. FCM, your blog is seriously fierce. But one-off replies will never elicit the attention our arguments DESERVE. I don’t know, just thinking about power in numbers….🙂

FCM - April 14, 2011

Or, you could give it three seconds of thought and come to the realization that changing gender does not change sex so women are still subject to the biological dictates of being born female.

true. we could just as easily say that *we* had transitioned to GLODS and that THEREFORE pregnancy and abortion were GLOD issues. “glod” of course being a completely-made-up word. see my “this is what a glod looks like” post for more on that.

the birth-control problem really pokes a lot of holes in fun-fem rhetoric, perhaps most obviously that PIV is harmless fun, or that its possible to have a het relationship based in “equality” when women have 100% of the risk of heterosex (PIV) and men have none. in fact, for fun-fems to say about the female-specific harms of PIV “well thats just part of being a woman!” is biological-essentialist of them isnt it? they are saying OH WELL THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO! women just get the shit end of the stick on this one! when in fact, they *could* remove this inequality in the context of het relationships by removing PIV from the equation. it wouldnt effect womens social standing of course, or the fact that women are impregnable. it would MERELY remove that very glaring inequality from individual het relationships. which het “feminist couples” are probably trying to do in other ways, but refuse to do it in THIS way. oops!

and then of course theres the problem of trans…that little pill is really a problem for the entire fun-fem industry isnt it? OOPS, again! of course, if they STOPPED taking it, all of this would become clear in an instant. which is probably why its their best fucking friend, and why fun-feminism is pretty much a white western phenomenon in the first place.

11. FAB Libber - April 14, 2011

What is interesting about this is that women, females are *always* fully XX. It is males and intersex which are variations of XY, but it doesn’t change the fact they’re *all* males.

Actually (a slight amendment) is that they are all *non-females*. Which proves that the default human as female (not the patriarchy reversal). Basically we are the pure ones, without contamination. The contaminate is the Y.

There are intersex with XXY and XXXY who come out rather feminised, but as you say, the small/no penis and they get classified and TREATED like XX females. I must see if I still have the chromosome abnormality book written about 30-40 years ago, pre-trans. Might be interesting.

FCM - April 14, 2011

or more specifically, PIV-pozzie is a white western phenomenon. interestingly, no other women on earth appear to be confused about the dangers to women, of the penis.

FCM - April 14, 2011

i like the swarm-idea UP…miska was saying the same thing earlier over at fabs place. feministing isnt cooperating of course, and not publishing any pingbacks that i saw. its too bad too, because if you read the comments on the original article, even some of thier own just arent buying it. same thing happened on the “radfems are killing hookers with words” article, some of their own kool-aid drinkers were like “HUH?” if they were publishing pingbacks, those readers could be reached. alas…they arent.

*but* i also have to point out that this post was NOT about the feministing article really. its about the cognitive dissonance IN GENERAL in the fun-fem rhetoric, around biological-sex being irrelevant, and PIV being harmless fun. its the same shit thats behind the FAAB/MAAB argument too: complete erasure of the FACT that patriarchal society is literally built on the known dangers to women of the penis. its not so FUN when you see it for what it really is…and theres an element of WILLFUL DENIAL here on the part of women who are taking fucking birth control pills every day. hello! what is that pill FOR? what does it represent, what does it mean…and literally, what does it DO? god its so aggravating. its like the banality or the routine of it has put them all to sleep.

FCM - April 14, 2011

granted, it *was* kinda like shooting fish in a barrel, with that article. i mean really.

12. cherryblossomlife - April 14, 2011

“Actually (a slight amendment) is that they are all *non-females*. Which proves that the default human as female (not the patriarchy reversal). Basically we are the pure ones, without contamination. The contaminate is the Y.”

Ah yes.

Males and non-females are in one group, and then females are in their own, seperate group.

That’s the patriarchal reversal at work.

The introduction of a Y always means that that particular individual is definitely Not an XX female i.e a woman.

The P tries to pretend that females PLUS penis-less people PLUS non-females are in one group, then Males With Penises are in their own, separate group because Males with Penises are whole human beings.

This is scientifically incorrect, but laws have been passed on the basis of this WRONG science!!!!

I hate hate hate this idea that women are the random add-ons of the species, built from Adam’s rib, fashioned as an afterthought… when CLEARLY, SCIENTIFICALLY, the opposite is true.

13. cherryblossomlife - April 14, 2011

Instead of hoping to prove trans are intersex perhaps they should use all that money to research which environmental pollutants (radiation?Mercuary? Pesticides?) are causing intersex chromozomal abnormalities.

14. Miska - April 14, 2011

What is interesting about this is that women, females are *always* fully XX. It is males and intersex which are variations of XY, but it doesn’t change the fact they’re *all* males.

A transactivist once asked me “What are you going to do when they eventually find a transexxual gene, hmm?”

I’ve no doubt they will “find” one considering the vast amount of financial resources going into trans “research”

I told her “THe existence of a transsexual gene does not *negate* the existence of females (which is what trans-women are hoping to prove). It just means there’s yet another variation on XY males”

Fascinating. Thank you.

Also, we talk about how trans-activists are intent on proving that sex doesnt exist, which is true. But more specifically, what trans-activists are really intent on doing is proving that the FEMALE SEX doesnt exist, as you point out. They dont seem to care one way or another about proving whether the male sex really exists or not. All their attentions are focused on femaleness. Why?

15. cherryblossomlife - April 14, 2011

It’s just a continuation of the age-hold patriarchal ideology that females don’t exist in their own right. Trans ideology IS the patriarchal worldview and vice versa.

The idea (now disproven by science) that men are the original prototype for human kind and women are the afterthought, is ancient. But trans activists should understand that this obsession with saying that women aren’t whole humans is not original. At. all. From Aristotle to Freud men have tried to say that women are the negative hologram of “whole” men.

So trans activists are merely continuing the ancient patriarchal agenda of putting all mutilated and “queer” men in the same group as women, instead of admitting that women are the only true whole humans.

Deep down, deep deep down, men probably know all this on a subconscious level, and it’s probably another reason for all the misogyny. Imagine realising you *were* the afterthought, add-on half of the species…!

16. cherryblossomlife - April 14, 2011

And the way it depoliticizes women as a group (just found that feministing site LOL!!)
If women are unable to identify with each other, and mobilize *as* *a* *group* , then they’re weakened politically. If women-as-a-group don’t exist there is no longer a Women Problem and definitely no need for feminism.

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18. yttik - April 14, 2011

That feministing post makes me want to bang my head on my desk a few dozen times or maybe point and laugh.

As to the pill or the nuvaring or whatever, yes, yes, and yes. It really frustrates me that the pill is practically a mandatory thing for women, all so dudes can have unfettered access to sex without having to worry about paying child support or dealing with the abortion issue. We start giving the darn pill to young girls, allegedly to help regulate their periods. The whole reproductive health thing has become completely dude centric and it makes me crazy. What about male responsibility? What about condoms and vasectomies? Men have had access to pregnancy prevention for hundreds of years and yet we continue to insist that women take all the responsibility for pregnancy prevention, not for their own safety, but for the convenience of men.

FCM - April 14, 2011

yes, as long as the women arent saying NO to mens PIV-entitlement, whats the problem? because women saying NO, *was* the problem, and now its not. see! problem solved!*

* the above is a reenactment of dude-centric problem solving. thank you!

FCM - April 15, 2011

rmott posted one of dworkins anti-porn speeches at her place. damn could that woman write a speech. excellent.

http://rmott62.wordpress.com/2011/04/08/silence-means-dissent-andrea-dworkin-rip/

19. maggie - April 15, 2011

Had to share this. V, v, busy at the moment and have only time to read these fantastic posts, plus all the other radfems as well (who are equally fab).

Last night I gave to a woman, in retirement, my radical idea, poached from these here blogs, to trim the world of excess in population. Men are fertile 24/7 for most of their lives, women are fertile 3 days in the month for about 40 years. No brainer suggests that the menz should be the ones who do contraception. And we should never think them so stupid that they couldn’t take contraception.

So the big rad idea is that they bank their sperm, get a vascectomy and then retrieve sperm when they want widdle childwen. She nodded, this middle class, christian, white priviledged woman, in agreement all the way and thought the idea perfect for saving an overpopulated world. I was genuinely stunned.

20. Noanodyne - April 15, 2011

This is such a brilliant honing down to the perfect illustration of the absurdity of their mindless maunderings:

so!  here we all are, in this awesome post-feminist and post-biological-sex world.  yay!  theres just one problem, one nagging little thing…this one tiny reminder every day, every day, that what the fun-fems are spewing is complete and utter garbage, and that the inconsistencies in their “gender” discourse swallow, digest and shit out their discourse, eviscerate their discourse, render meaningless their discourse…and that “tiny little thing”, i believe, is this: the birth-control pill.  PIV-positive fun-fems: if biological sex does not exist, or is irrelevant, or what the fuck ever, what is that little pill you are popping every day actually for?

FCM - April 15, 2011

Thanks noan. It’s so obvious isn’t it? Jeebus.

Also, Maggie, I am finding more and more that EVERYONE except the fucking fun fems are willing or even eager to acknowledge this kind of stuff. The female-specific-harms-of-piv stuff. It’s such a goddamn awful joke that the sex pozzers won’t budge on any of this, because literally everyone else gets it, EVEN THE MEN. Men know what they do. Fun fems know too, they just obviously think there’s more to be gained from ignoring it. Something that (obviously) separates them from every other woman in the entire world, all of them, the ones who aren’t ignoring it. I wonder what it is? God…I hope the answer isn’t…the pill???

FCM - April 15, 2011

you know, thats probably the answer isnt it? i think dworkin about said as much in RWW, although the 60s counterculture girls she was talking about didnt take it quite as far, as it was pre-trans politicking and all. but i am sure thats it. the fucking sex-pozzers are allowed (by powerful men) to take the pill every day, every day…as long as they pretend they dont know what its for. access to relatively-reliable birth control, in exchange for their silence.

21. cherryblossomlife - April 16, 2011

God…I hope the answer isn’t…the pill???

ha! You’re right. But how utterly mundane. You can’t go on a hike in the Amazon unless you bring your pills, you can’t sleep your way through jet lag because you have to take your pill. What a circumscribed life.
And besides, pills are just so MALE- they’re invented and distributed by men and they put you “under the doctor” for as long as you’re taking them.

22. maggie - April 16, 2011

yes cherry you are most certainly circumscribed if you take the pill. no more than being told to stay in the house or wear the veil or take on board mandatory PIV.

FCM the funfems are in denial and are doing the denial dance. Surely this must end. As you have found in your mid 30s. It is down to the pill. Take one a day and all your troubles shall be magicked away. Like that’s the story. As cherry pointed out. It isn’t. The pill affects your every move.

23. rhondda - April 19, 2011

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, I have always found it amusing that leftist environmentalist men are always jabbering about population control. It is very simple actually. They should stop ejaculating into women. Problem solved. However, they don’t. They expect women to take the pill which gets into the water system when you urinate and causes all sorts of imbalances in nature. Their failure to take their own behaviour into account is what makes their posturing about the environment a huge joke.

FCM - April 19, 2011

Yes! Now that is an excellent point. The lefty liberal dickwad enviros are actually polluting misogynist terrorists. TRUE.

24. FAB Libber - April 19, 2011

Very true rhondda.

FCM - April 20, 2011

I have a new post up. Enjoy!

25. Selah - April 20, 2011

rhondda, that really is such a good point. I am going to remember that next time I’m talking to one of those environmentalist doods. (They’re all over the place where I live).

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