Ongoing, To Far

radical feminists go too far.  we are big green meanies and dont take many things into consideration, including mens feelings, individual (usually western, educated) womens “lived experience” and even, sometimes, practicality.  yes its extremely impractical to expect that anything radical or fundamental is going to occur in our lifetimes, if at all, to really change anything of substance for girls and women around the world.

it might be that its impossible at this juncture to change anything at all, after several thousand years of patriarchy and women-abuse which has created, among other things, way too many people.  there never shouldve been this many people alive at the same time.  and this includes, obviously, way too many men.  deny that at your peril, and the peril of logic and reasonableness.  the problem of “too many men” is inarguable in fact, if we accept that “overpopulation” is real.

if it werent for mandatory PIV and rampant use and abuse of female bodies globally, by men, this would never have happened.  but it did happen, and the problem of “too many people” when coupled with the “PIV-as-sex” paradigm is self-perpetuating.  it might really be too late.  we must accept this as a possibility, mustnt we?  i mean really, we arent stupid.  we must understand this on some level.  radical feminists not only accept it on some (or every) level, but we act in accordance with our understanding of it.  so do all women though, i think.  even the fun-fems seem to know this: its too late, we are too far down that road, better make lemonade out of lemons.  just dont rape us mkay?  please?  we will make it as easy on men as possible to accomplish the not-raping, including saying yes all the damn time to just about everything, but we must insist (please and thank you) that XYZ.  and so they do this.  very similarly to right-wing women as a matter of fact, liberal and mainstream “feminist” women are constantly making lemonade.  capitulating to men.  trying to make things…better.  its harm-reduction, i get it.  and it is necessary.  like putting a cast on an already-broken leg, or putting down salt and sand on the ice, they treat and prophylocate constantly.  i see what you are doing.  i see you, and i hear you.  yes.

but if we can accept that it is possible that it is too late, that we are too far down that road, that there are simply too many people and too many men, that the change we need the most is what we are least likely to get, whats the harm in a feminist “going too far” by anyones standards?  demonstrate the harm, if you can.  we live in a world where men rape babies, where the most acceptable, vanilla “sex act” can kill you (if you are female) and where not being traumatized by it, or too traumatized to function, or not dying from it, is the best any of us can hope for.  many of us cant even aspire to that, its too late for that too.  and still, there are those who call feminists terrorists.  feminists are terrorists.  when you succeed at getting your head around that one, the rest is kind of easy.  because if you cant go there at all, there is no such thing as going too far.  once youve put your toe in those waters, youve drowned.

not that most of the asshats who say dworkin “went too far” ever read her, but they say this about her anyway.  its accepted that dworkin “went too far” if not when she damned pornography and pornographers, then definitely when she criticized intercourse.  oh noes!  well, there are those of us who think that, for all she did and said, even about intercourse, that dworkin didnt go far enough.  there are those who think jessica valenti went too far with her brand of strawberry-gelatin i mean feminism, but what does that mean?  if dworkin and valenti have both gone too far, then that phrase is literally meaningless.  to further demonstrate this particular meaninglessness, lets continue down that road.  along with valenti, and dworkin, there are some who think valerie solanas went too far too.  valenti and solanas in the same sentence?  really?  yes.  in fact, considering what we are really dealing with here, and the meaninglessness of the phrase “going too far” when it comes to feminists and what we say and what we do, i can reasonably say that no feminist that we know of has ever gone far enough, let alone having gone “too far” and further, none of us ever will.

certainly, if youve read or heard about it, its very likely a capitulation of some kind.  there are laws against inciting imminent violence afterall: if it incited imminent violence, it wouldnt be published in the first place, or would be successfully challenged, and would instigate a chilling effect on like-minded speakers.  and even if any of us did speak in a way as to incite imminent violence, and even if there was actual violence in response, it still very likely wouldnt be enough to incite actual change on a global level.  i believe this is the situation we are in: the worst-case scenario from the perspective of the anti-feminists (that feminists would speak or act like “terrorists”) would not get us what we wanted, and would only land us, individually, in jail.  we would have failed, and lost everything in the process.  everything.  we might even die over it, but we would not succeed in anything but destroying ourselves.

thats right.  in a world where men rape babies (how young is too young?), and they rape little girls seductive children, and they rape teenagers girls gone wild, and they rape grown women sluts, and raped women and not-yet-raped women are expected to have consensual, coerced or forced intercourse for life, and if you dont want to have intercourse anymore (or at all) you are crazy, its a crime to incite imminent violence.  (and that crazy-diagnosis?  interestingly, it wont help you out in court).  the only recognized exception to this prohibition against inciting or participating in violence is within the context of all-out war.  and even war would not be an overreaction to the current situation: wars have been fought over far less (and over exactly the same things actually.  see the US declaration of independence, which was a declaration of war, citing some grievances that are identical to womens grievances against men, and others that seem made-up and superfluous but i am sure were really important to them at the time).

now tell me, again, about feminists going too far?